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I got a lot from reading Modern Drummer magazine. They have theory and practice articles by very experienced drummers in many genres. Reading about, for example, how New Orleans second line patterns work broadens your horizons and opinions. Also, there are articles about how to listen and make the groove support the song, regardless of style

Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge! Extremely helpful

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Love this Oscar - although I keep trying to click on your arrangement to go back a bit and listen again

live your vid is! would you ever consider making content for those that prefer to produce music without a computer?

Check out Tim Ferris learning to play drums in 5 days and play a live concert! ruclips.net/video/FBjWEwkl_s0/видео.htmlsi=z_5ad7iUBgGfZDGR

Just a hobbyist, but I've started learning finger drumming on pad controllers ~2 years ago, and that really helped me to understand rhythm, groove and how drum patterns work much better. Nice thing about pad controllers is that you can also use them as a keyboard substitute with a matrix / isomorphic layout. Doesn't work so well for some things as a keyboard, but others (leads, more creative or rhythmic playing) is very nice with that. Nice thing about pad controllers: they are very portable :)

Hey, I’m a 18 year old drummer and I’m playing the drums for almost 11 years now. The first thing that really helped me out exploring different grooves and variations on the drum set is learning how to hold your sticks. This may sound odd but the best advice to a beginner is knowing the basics before you step up your game. There are so many different types of holding the sticks and by no means I’m saying that you have to start with the traditional grip, but getting the fundamentals right is always a big help. (e.g. German grip, French grip, etc.) A huge tip to get started is to lay down your sticks in the snare drum while holding them and forming a triangle shaped form, so that the tips are touching each other. Then raise them so that they are completely vertical and proceed to hit each stick on the surface where the tips have touched before. The goal is to minimize the surface area where the two sticks are hitting the drum so that you can achieve the same sound out of every hit and develop a sort of consistency. It also helped a lot with coordinating the different hits to sync them to the metronome. I hope this helped you out. It really did for me when I stared back in 2013 :) It’s really nice to see you getting into my hobby while I was introduced into producing techno through your tutorials and through your industrial techno course!! Keep it up! Greetings from Germany ✌🏼

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being the only dude and the only one that didn't play a wind instrument in my music class, I had to become the drummer by default. All I can say is you develop an ear for it and the rest is sooo much practice and practice and practice. Just keep drumming and it will become more natural over time. Also, you'll drive everyone mad because you'll start drumming along with your fingers and hands when a dope beat drops ;)

a tip that would help make the sticks and wrist movement feel more natural at an accelerated pace would be to listen to tunes and tap along on a pillow.. this helps you get comfortable with allowing the drumsticks to do the work while listening to your favourite bangers at the same time... (this is also dave grohl's method)

as a drummer and techno producer, we love to see it

I also started drumming recently. Freedrum Studio is a fun app to connect to your drum kit, similar to guitar hero

Great that you are challenging yourself to learn drums. I would have to learn more of that instrument too! First things first, remember that the beat of the kick drum pedal travels through the concrete throughout the house. It sounds like someone is hitting the wall with a hammer all the time. Secondly, something that is very important in acoustic drums is ghost notes which in the digital world makes it more alive. Maybe not so useful in techno but there is rhythm in it which is extremely important when combining nearby percussion.😇

Don't neglect the paradiddle!!! If you are serious about the kit (or any percussion, really).... paradiddle is how you switch your lead hand, swap which is on the downbeat let's say. But also which hand is cocked and ready for the next beat, eliminating having to rush a long jump or drop a frame in fills. Poi spinners call it a 3 beat (bare beginner weave move, we had no idea!) It'll make you ambidextrous, handy for most things in life. If you can diddle your legs too, even at Xanax speed? Oyster. Tis yours. Even if a little slower, any beat drummable *by a human is yours. Maybe a couple non human licks too. This is the way....

Don't overcrowd drum grooves. The drummer only has two hands and two feet, and there is physical distance between different instruments of the drum kit. I find that electronic grooves composed on drum machines and synths sound better and more musical if they respect what would be feasible by a human drummer on a real kit. (Similar to how synth lines that would take 14 fingers to play on a piano are just "too much"). Even when it's 100% synthetic and machine-made, music seems more effective and easier to relate to if it feels "humanly feasible". Hence also the tremendous value add of human voice into any mix.

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I've discovered the same thing happened when I started playing bass guitar. You learn so much more when you play a physical instrument then just tapping keys.

Since you asked for opinion on the draft idea, i feel like the vocals are way too busy on top of the other elements. I usually like much more simplistic approach to adding a layer of vocals in an electronic context. in any case, thanks for this sharing this technique! very interesting :)

Oscar, thank you very much for sharing your experience! As someone who can't afford a real drum kit I appreciate it a lot. Good luck at practicing!

I'm glad you went full time, because this channel has the most and the best ACTIONABLE information I've found yet. You don't just talk about a concept, you show how to use it.

Patterns are probably the easiest way to create variation and groove. For example, if I played a fill RLRL-RLRL-RLRL-RLRL it will sound different to a paradiddle played on the same drums RLRR-LRLL-RLRR-LRLL. Another pattern could be made of triplets - RLR LRL RLR LRL, could be played RRL LLR RRL LLR. By simply programming your right hand and left hand on different drums on the drum rack, it will give you some more variety. There are also things like Flams, where you play both hands at the same time but one stick starts closer to the drums so it hits slightly ahead. Lastly, think about what is physically possible on the drum. You have two hands and two feet, so at most you can play 4 sounds at once. If you want your drums to sound more natural, don't program a hit on the snare, tom, crash and ride at the same time because this would never happen in real life!

Oddly enough I was looking at Roland electronic drums the other day…

I had exactly the same idea recently-to purchase electronic drums, especially for composing Electro-Industrial music, which is heavily dependent on breakbeats (like the Skinny Puppy album Too Dark Park). Very valid & timely video. Thank you.

I actually started with drums as my first instrument, long before I ever got into electronic music. I think it was foundational in development as a musician and my tastes. The best advice I can give is to always think rhythmically. Even when sitting idly, I would always tap out complex rhythms much to the chagrin of many of my teachers. Even though I have not played consistently in a very long time, I still consider it to be my primary instrument and it is the foundation of my musical DNA

Good grief, bloomin' excellent video!

Here's something you will realize with practice: paradiddles and other singles-doubles combinations make amazing techno phrases. For example, Jeff Mill's The Bells is "just" RLRRLLRL You are doing great for just 2 weeks! Keep it up!

I started as a drummer more years ago than I'm willing to admit. You're doing very well for only two weeks in! My tip would be to play along with songs as best you can as part of your regular practice. Drilling is rewarding but can become dull after awhile. Mixing in a some play-alongs is both rewarding and fun. Once you're proficient enough, I recommend playing with a cover band. There's nothing like social pressure to motivate practice and playing other people's songs forces you out of your comfort zone - which is where the learning happens.

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What a coincidence, I literally had my first Drum lesson today haha, feel like a sign !

I bought a drum kit to become a better bass player. Once you have an appreciation of how an instrument fits into arrangements and contributes to the feel, you can recreate that in an electronic setting.

I’ve hooked my drum machines to a Nord Drum P3 kit and I usually create my patterns by hand. It saves me a ton of time editing velocities, plus it adds a human touch. I need quantizing to be on though since I am a sloppy drummer 😂 I very much recommend the approach also because knowing the drumming culture will help immensely with the rest - as Oscar put it - and also because it is simply so much fun. The only drawback are the neighbours because after a while they start drumming too.

Dude, you spontaneously picked up a set of V-Drums?! I'm kind of jealous. But yeah this is awesome! I started teaching myself rhythm on a pair of bongos my dad got me as a teen. Went on to get some other ethnic drums. I roomed with a guitarist friend and started playing a proper drum kit. And I've been doing electronic music all along. I know rhythm and syncopation intimately, but how I imagine myself playing something on the drums is different than when I actually play it. It takes a lot of practice to shed one's clumsiness. They way I think about rhythm is from the perspective of slapping 16th notes on an ethnic drum (with my hands), the left hand being the ON beat, the right hand being the OFF beat. Guitarist may refer to this as the down beat and the up beat when strumming. Now I try to play the 16th notes near inaudibly. It's a matter of which ones I stress, or accent. I create patterns by stressing three different elements: ON, OFF, and HEMI. By HEMI I mean a Hemiola which is like a "dotted note", or a poly rhythm where you stress ON, OFF, ON or OFF, ON, OFF. For example accent the 1st, 4th and 7th sixteenth notes. Does that make sense? HEMI is clearly the coolest thing to do. And you find different places the insert the HEMI. Sometimes you start on the ON. Sometimes you start on the OFF. Start earlier or later in the measure. Experiment. To shed the clumsiness, stop thinking and let the rhythm play itself.

Flashbulb ftw!

I'm moving cross-country soon so the studio gear is nearly packed up (just my laptop, a Push 2, and a little Akai 24-key mini keyboard is all I have out), but on the other end of the move, I'm going to prioritize getting a small E-drum kit and taking lessons.

Oscar, what do the neighbors think about your drumming at home?🙂

A fun path you began, may the breaks flow thru you. If you are on the "I want to learn about rhythm theory" path I strongly suggest to look up Konnakol, if you can say it you can drum it. a track to get you started would be Konnakol crosswalks, its on spotify On fred's video, hes tapping the table hes not finger drumming, which is harder because he has to "mute" the table with his elbow to do a muted snare like sound, thats something you would learn while learning african percussion like a Djembe where you can mute or tense the patch so it sounds different. Djembe and or congas are amazing to understand gesture in percussion Have fun, drums are awesome. I had to quit as I dont have space but loved the instrument.

chords and melodies come to me a lot more naturally than percussion as a piano player so I've been thinking lately that maybe i just need to go and buy an ekit one day

When you've been playing drums for some years it's hard to look at it from beginner's perspective. So it's been curious to hear your first insights from learning to play drums. Good luck on your drumming journey!

90 Hz fundamental, piped through a cheap joyo pocket metal pedal, then an octaver, then a compressor. Just mangle the snot out of that kick, and forget the low end initially.

I like this analogy. To take the next step, although there are entire galaxies of texture, flavour, and quality available in retail wine, brewing one's own has benefits not otherwise available. Love to patch different percussion from scratch. I appreciate learning the tasting terminology. Very helpful, even as a diy brewer / eurocrack addict. My favorite software drum is Trummor2 by Vult in vcv rack. So many sound sculpting parameters, and it spits out a copy of the amplitude envelope, which is very handy for ducking.

Been doing the same, great to see I'm not going mad. Cheers!

Between 1990 and around 2010 I made the progression from being an entirely analogue musician (playing guitar, singing, being able to put out some basic beats on a drum set) to being an almost entirely digital producer some some hybrid projects in the middle which I believe were pretty powerful & I am humbled to have been a part of. Everything you’re saying here is super on point. I still think about synth lead lines like guitar solos, or at least lead guitar sections. Advice: you’re muscling the drum sticks: that is, your wrists are totally rigid & you’re playing with your arms. We all do this when we start out because we are stressed about being late or missing a hit & our rabbit brain deals with activity stress by making everything tense & relying on the big strong muscles in our body. As you practice your rudiments & patterns, instead of trying to progress to harder & harder ones so you’re always at that challenge point, try to focus on doing the ones you know softer & smoother using more and more wrist & less & less arm. Over time, the hard patterns will come to you quicker if you aren’t trying to muscle everything. Not to mention you’ll develop good dynamic control, which tends to be rare in drummers.

do i play drums, yes, im currently transferring my skills to an mpc controller

love drumming, this is amazing

Wow! Oscar! Talk about baring your soul. Took a lot of guts to do that.

Damn, that’s one sexy drum machine 😍😍😍😍

This is a great video! Please give follow ups as you gain insights!

Regarding "This sound" btw - as an example, in "Enter Sandman", there are some places where you hit floor tom and snare for a couple bars, raising the amplitude of your hits, as a build up before the next section. I've learnt Enter Sandman recently myself, and it's a good song for a beginner to have a decent challenge, but still be able to learn it. Try it!

I've been learning music production for the last two years from the very basics, and last year came up with the very same thought - I needed to get feeling of drum groove in my hands so that I could confidently make some drum parts in my own music. In autumn toom some lessons, and by now I've even learnt some songs. It's real fun, good cardio, and is totally helping to comprehend the rhythmic part of music theory better